Showing posts with label Saison. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Saison. Show all posts

Thursday, August 26, 2010

Saison Split batch

Ceallach on the left, Saison 2.0 (French Sasion Yeast 3711) on the right

Thanks to the help of Kelly I was able to brew my Saison split batch this past Saturday. one was what I am dubbing Saison 2.0/ French Saison.  It has the exact same hop and fermentables profile as my first Saison only using 3711 instead of 3724.  The second was my first attempt at a hibiscus Saison I'm calling Ceallach.  with minimal research I came across the recommendation of using 4 oz of dried hibiscus for a 5 gallon batch, and putting it in at flame out.  In sampling the dried hibiscus, and some assumptions based off of the flavor profile of goose islands Fleur, the hibiscus will add a berry tart flavor with some astringency.  In the future I plan on experimenting and doing more research on a) using more hibiscus at the end of the boil b) dry hopping in some way c) making a hibiscus tea then boiling it down and d) using fresh hibiscus. In comparing the zest of a regular orange, an oddly colored grape fruit, and a mandarin, Kelly and I decided that the mandarin gave the best flavor and was rather mellow.  I believe it will add  a nice background flavor to the more upfront hibiscus, but I am not entirely sure what to expect from the addition to citrus zest to begin with so we shall see.

  In reality because of the need to through the hibiscus and mandarin zest needed to be added at the end I had to do two separate boils.  The good thing about this is that I actually did full wort boils for these two. the bad part is I simply cut the recipe for a partial boil in half so the French Saison will be about 10 IBU's higher then my first saison.  Another possible issue is that I pitched both of these saisons around 82 degrees while last time I was able to get it down to the mid 60's and then allowed it to ramp up. we'll see if this actually has any effect.  The big plus of the day was the Irish Moss made a huge difference in the racking process and there is far less trub in this batch. Starsan also turned out to be pretty easy to use. Both of the saison's OGs clocked in around 1.066.

Next up: I am going to be brewing an American Saison tonight using the 3724 yeast cake from my first saison, as well as an American hop profile and a partial mash of Munich and Malted Wheat.  I don't have a super clear idea of the right way to partial mash, and this is the first time I've racked on top of a yeast cake that probably has a fair amount of excess trub so we shall see how it turns out.

As for my Saison goals I seem to be doing pretty well.  by mid-October I will have been able to compare the two main choices in Saison yeasts, I will have gotten a rough draft of Ceallach to muse over, and I will have also developed a better understanding of what some all grain will bring to the table.

Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Ceallach

     According to Goose Island, many saisons are named after family members leading to Goose Island's saison being named after the brewer's daughter "Sofie". Along these lines I am planning on naming one of my finalized saisons after the she-devil.  Given that everything sounds better and fancier in french I decided to see if there was a French version of the name Kelly. Wikipedia and various dubious baby naming sites claim Kelly is strictly Irish, Scottish, and English in origin.  Apparently the given name Kelly is derived...
From the Irish given name CEALLACH or the surname derived from it Ó Ceallaigh.
I decided that Ceallach was a decent enough sounding name and that its meaning was possibly the following
The Irish word 'ceallach' translates to 'recluse' or 'hermit'
Among the meanings given in various 'name origin' sites for 'Ceallach' are bright-headed, war, strife or contention and some say that it is the Irish word for 'war', which it is not. The Irish word for war is 'cogadh'. The Irish word for 'bright' is near enough but it is spelt 'geal'. One site said that it could be from 'ceall', the genitive plural of 'cill' which means a church or monastery. 
That seems like quite a wide range of potential meanings to work with, so I'll just go with "bright-headed."  I plan on brewing a saison that is both bright in flavor and in color.  My intial thoughts are to brew a spiced saison with hibiscus and blood orange or blood orange zest.  I'm not sure if this will be part of my august mini batch this summer or come into fruition this following late spring.


The word on the forums is 4 oz of dried hibiscus is usually used for a 5.00 gallon batch so I'll use 2 oz. There has been some discussion of dry hopping or making a strong tea and adding it to the primary fermenter, but for now I think I'll just stick with all of it at the end of the boil (really flame out).


The next question is, where do you get it?


Some advice from beer advocate:
Any Mexican market should have it, but it will probably be called "jamaica" or "flor de jamaica". Its used in Mexico to make a tea that is quite delicious.. 
 The second potential ingredients is orange zest. for this I think I'm going to take a look at the saison Buffoon recipe in Radical Brewing and cut its estimates in half.  I'll get an exact recipe in a week or so and look into where I can get the additional ingredients.

Saison 2.0 and further thoughts


I've been hoping to make use of our  non air conditioned house, and continuing to develop an understanding of saisons.  my first objective was to establish what mainstream saison yeast I preferred.  therefore I am planning on brewing two 2.5 gallon batches, one using the exact same recipe as my first saison except using 3711 yeast instead of 3724.  the second mini batch will use the same malt, hops and yeast but will also include a certain spice regiment.  given that I hope to become competent in saisons I am planning on  amassing a list of potential saison ingredients.  I think I am going to give an attempt at my Saison Ceallach before next season. To sum it up I have 3 Saison Objectives before next spring: 1) decide which yeast I like better 2) do some research and become familiar with potential grains, hops, and spices I could use in a saison. 3) come up with a Ceallach recipe.

First Saison Recipe

%LBOZMALT OR FERMENTABLE

71%50Briess Pilsen Light DME

14%10Briess Bavarian Wheat DME
14%10Sugar, Table (Sucrose)

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